There were hopes that one of Destiny 2’s least powerful Supers would get a new lease on life in The Final Shape, but even Prismatic couldn’t save the Titan Arc Super Thundercrash, with fans demanding that Bungie give the largely irrelevant ability another chance.

With the Thundercrash ability, the Titan charges up Arc energy, then launches itself directly at a group of enemies (or a boss) and explodes, dealing “meteoric” damage. Unfortunately, it’s been a while since a Destiny player has even described this damage as “mediocre,” with some recent nerfs and a general shift away from up-close boss combat effectively neutralizing the Super. “Base Thundercrash is by far the weakest one-shot Super in the entire game,” one fan stated on Reddit on June 16.

The stats don’t lie; player testing has revealed that standard heavy hitters like Hunter’s Golden Gun and Warlock’s Nova Bomb far outperform Thundercrash in effective damage—all from a safe distance. Meanwhile, Titans throw themselves directly into danger and, without the use of a crutch, Exotic like Cuirass of the Falling Star, dying almost immediately upon detonation in a boss reaction.

Prismatic didn’t do much here either, with little to no correlation to the Thundercrash ability compared to other Supers like the new Void Twilight Arsenal. Aside from landing a lucky roll on the Exotic class item for the Star-Eater Scales Super damage buff, Thundercrash without Cuirass just isn’t good enough in the current ranged DPS meta. “It’s bad enough that you’re launching yourself into the enemy, which is incredibly risky,” one player summarized. “It also has the longest cooldown in the game, lowest damage, most risk, and longest execution time of any one-and-done.”