Leave it to the Helldivers 2 community to get creative when it comes to coming up with new factions. With the Automatons and Terminids dominating the game for the past five months, and rumors of a third enemy faction circulating for a while now, players are already looking ahead.

There have already been leaks and rumors that the mysterious Illuminate will be the third enemy faction of Helldivers 2, joining the Terminids and Automatons. The sudden appearance of a black hole (or is it a black hole?) a little under a month ago has done little to dispel these rumors, with some impatient players choosing to dive right in and see what’s on the other side.

But before a third enemy faction can even be confirmed, the highly active Helldivers 2 community has already begun speculating about a fourth faction – and how fighting human traitors might make it stand out. As for whether there could be a fourth faction at all, some users have pointed out that the game’s Galactic War map was split into four sections during the game’s beta.

A recent discussion on the r/Helldivers subreddit, started by OreganoCrackYT, really got the hype going about human traitors as a strong idea for a potential fourth faction. Fighting other humans instead of giant machines or terrifying insects would be fun for a change. And here’s a compelling thought: why not make the elite enemies of this traitorous faction Helldivers themselves? That would be a fun twist.