Most video games are pretty simple: you play as a hero and are tasked with defeating the main enemy before the game ends.

Over the years, there have been countless memorable heroes for gamers to play as, and each of them came with an impressive set of tools that helped them overcome the odds and defeat their respective villains. But it also raises an interesting question that was recently posed on Reddit: which of these powerful heroes would make a more fearsome antagonist?

One of the first, and recurring, answers was Doom Guy from the Doom franchise. Any fan of the Doom series will tell you that the demon hunter is an imposing figure, and taking on him and his chainsaw would be a real challenge. Some other recurring answers include Kratos from God of War and Corvo Attano from Dishonored, but for different reasons. Kratos’ immense strength and propensity for godly weaponry make him a force to be reckoned with, while Corvo’s supernatural stealth skills make him deadly in a very different way.

And then there were the less serious answers that were mostly jokes. Nintendo’s Mario and Kirby were mentioned a lot, though the latter got more attention. The pink orb doesn’t seem like an intimidating foe, but his ability to swallow almost any enemy he wants and copy their powers could be a real problem to deal with. As for Mario, a jack of all trades like him could be a formidable opponent if he were to be turned to the dark side.